ARWI писал(а):Литвин1009 писал(а):ARWI писал(а):мы с вами понимаем, почему вы не хотите Дялтуву нарисовать. потому что собственно литва сдвигается на беларускую территорию( плюс Вильно).
но будем копать...я не отстану
это зеленое пятно на картинке слева. ваша критика еще раз,конструктивно?
Ни фига себе пятно! Это огромная территория!
Теперь конструктивно и по существу.
1229-1247 "Через Нальшаны на Литву" (durh Nalsen kein Litowen) — походы Ливонского Ордена ("Ливонская рифмованная хроника" XIII в).
Эта фраза вырвана из контекста.
Англоязычный перевод хроники.
"They moved into the land of Nalsen, where they killed the people
with a free hand. They slaughtered them like cattle—men, women
and children—and few of them were spared. The well-ordered
army moved
through Nalsen toward Lithuania, for the Master
wanted to see what King Mindaugas was capable of, if he were
any good at fighting. The king stayed in his castle. The Christian
army ravaged the area and was often attacked, but it repaid this
fully. All exerted themselves in devastating the land. Even those
who should have defended their camps against them had fled.
They had been checkmated.118 The Christians rejoiced and
thanked God in heaven and His loving mother, for the help of
both of them was evident there. They also took an innumerable
amount of booty
in the land of Lithuania and then destroyed by
the torch everything around them. They could take their pick of
all the roads and the Brothers were seen in places no Christian
had ever been before.
The Master with his Brothers and crusaders formed up their
army carefully.
They wanted to advance without resistance upon
the Samogithians and cause them great harm. The war-horn
sounded three times and the army made ready.
Then they rode
toward Samogithia, bringing grief to many, who since the time of
their childhood had never been in battle, and who now suffered
death. The might of the Christians and the fierce figliting caused
much sorrow. Forget about the damage done in Lithuania! It was
not half as great.
Samogithian blood was spilt, and they were
unable to defend themselves. Whoever wished to save his life had
to forego all pride and flee into the forests, seeking refuge in the
thickets and swamps, and whoever was found there had to pay
with his neck. This befell many, and the voices of the
Samogithians mourned for many a day. The Christians filled their
hands with booty, and then devastated the land with fire and
returned home".
Т.е. крестоносцы идут через Нальшу в Литву, а потом после Литвы сразу в Жемайтию. Как вы себе это представляете при конфигурации Нальши в виде этого зеленого пятна? Ну допустим Литва это Новогрудок (допустим!). Как из Новогрудка попасть сразу в Жематию не пересекая обратно Нальшу и земли ятвягов?
